Friday, November 19, 2010

Grade 8: Good Night, Mr. Tom (Part 1 due by midnight, November 22nd; Part 2 due by midnight, November 24th; Part 3 due by midnight, November 28th)

Since we won't be in class to have a discussion, we will be having a discussion here online! You may post any time throughout this next week, but you MUST post by the three dates listed here and on Edline.

Part 1: Post three THICK questions.

Part 2: Respond to at least two other students' questions. Please write a minimum of five sentences to answer.

Part 3: Respond to two other students. You may answer a question, write a reaction, clarify an idea, agree, or disagree. These responses must be at least five sentences.

Remember, be thoughtful about what you post! This online discussion is here to help you and generate interesting ideas. I am excited to read what you have to say!

33 comments:

  1. 3 thick questions
    Why would Willie's mom torture her kids in such a violent and cruel way?
    Why wouldn't the mom talk about the other baby and way was he treaten in such a way even though he was a kid BABY?
    Wasn't willies mom concirned that she may have killed willie when she hit him with the heavy object(if she hit him in the tempia)?

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  2. Hello everyone!

    Here are my three thick questions:
    1) Why did Willies mother commit suicide?
    2) Did Willie fall in love with Carrie?
    3) Why did the mother want the baby to be secret?

    Here are my three thick questions, Now I have to wait for someone else thick questions to try to answer them!
    Have a nice weekend!

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  3. My three thick questions are:
    (I) Did William have any ill feeling towards his mom after he returned and how was he able to cope with her hateful behavior ?
    (II) What always triggered the anger his mother showed towards him?
    (III) Why did the author use two different characters, showing one as heartless and brutal, and the other, kind and so very nice? Compare Tom and William’s mum?

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  4. Here is my answer to Alessandro's questions.
    1)Why would Willie's mom torture her kids in such a violent and cruel way?
    Maybe the mother treated her kids this way because when she was younger her mother or father treated her the same way she treats Willie, and she wants to take her anger out on him.
    2)Why wouldn't the mom talk about the other baby and why was he threatening him in such a way even though he was a kid?
    Like I answered in my previous response, the mother had a bad experience when she was younger and she decided she would pay back and torture poor Willie.

    3)Wasn't Willies mom concerned that she may have killed willie when she hit him with the heavy object(if she hit him in the tempia)?
    The mother probably wanted to get rid of Willie and the baby since she locked them both under the stairs and didn't come back. This means she wanted to get rid of the baby girl and Willie.

    I hope you are satisfied with my answers to your questions!
    Have a nice day!

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  5. Hello!!!!

    Here are my three thick questions:
    1. Why did Willie's mother escape from home after hitting willie?
    2. Why did Willie's mother want to kill him?
    3. Why did Tom go to London after dreaming that Willie needed help?

    Have a nice weekend!!!!

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  6. Hello Ms Gelso and classmates

    My three thick questions are:

    1. Why are the people in the hospital so unwilling to let Tom take Will home?
    2. Was it finally a good idea for Tom to kidnap Will from the hospital?
    3. Why did Will's mum teach him that almost everything is a sin?

    I hope you'll find an answer to my questions. Until then, have a nice weekend!

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  7. Did Willie's mother feel bad for hitting him??

    Is that the reason she ran away and left Willie??

    Why did the mother want to keep the baby as a secret??

    my opinion is that mabe she did not want the people to know, or mabe bbecause if the father of Willie ( even if he exists) would have discovered it mabe he would have stopped to give her the right money to survive, to mantain the house and to drink and eat!!

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  8. hello,

    Part 1:
    3 thik questions:

    1) How did Will react to the suicide of the mother?

    2) Why did the mother keep the baby secret?

    3) How did Tom finally have the courage to get Will away from the hospital, so kidnap him??

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  9. Hello Ms Gelso and classmates

    Part II

    Answers to Ludovica's three thick questions:

    1) Why did Willie's mother escape from home after hitting willie?
    Will's mum probably escaped from home because she couldn't stand raise two children (something that I personally don't believe that much, because otherwise, she wouldn't even ask him to return), or maybe she wanted actually to kill her daughter by leaving her alone with Will. She would do something like the second one, just for when she returns home, to blame Will for her death, because she deep inside wanted to get rid of Turdy.
    2) Why did Willie's mother want to kill him?
    I think that Will's mum didn't actually want to kill her son. She wanted to get rid of her baby and that's why she pretended to be ill: just to make him return home.
    3) Why did Tom go to London after dreaming that Willie needed help?
    Tom may had a feeling that something was going wrong (because Will didn't send him any card, or letter), and that's why he decided to go to London. The friendship they had during these six months couldn't be easily forgotten (something that Tom might think), and so he went to London with Sammy always near him.

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  10. Answers to Stavros questions
    1. Why are the people in the hospital so unwilling to let Tom take Will home?
    It may be that they didn't now Willie's mom so well. Not only it may have also been that looking at tom which wasn't nown as hes dad or part of the family he is not possible to grow with for willi. Meanwhile Willie's mom is his mom so she is seen as a perfect example to have a kid grow with.
    2. Was it finally a good idea for Tom to kidnap Will from the hospital?
    In a sence he did a good act. Sadly in other people point of view it was a wrong act even thoug I found it noble from him to try and save Willie from his mom
    3. Why did Will's mum teach him that almost everything is a sin?
    It is possible that she wanted him to be perfect in life and that she was taught like this so she wanted him to be taught aswell in the same violent way. In my point of view Willie is smart enough to understand by himself what is a sin and what isn't.


    Answers to Palomas Questions
    1) Why did Willies mother commit suicide?
    It seems to me that this question has one ovious base answer which is she was crazy but there must be other reasons. It may also been she felt guilty about what she had done to her kids and decided to demonstrate in her ow way.
    2) Did Willie fall in love with Carrie?
    I have to say I'm not sure about this but I would infer tht he was really close even though after a little time. So maybe you are right.
    3) Why did the mother want the baby to be secret?
    Maybe she didn't want to send her to the countryside and actually demonstrated some love for her. Otherwise she was mad as I have alredy mentioned.

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  11. Hello Everyone!

    My THICK Questions are:

    1. Why did Willie's Mother had a new-born baby?
    2. Why was Willie's Mother careless about Willie?
    3. How come everyone knew about the Breech Family?

    Hope I'll get some answers, maybe.

    Have a Great Thanksgiving everyone!

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  12. Hi!!!
    part1.
    1)Why did the mom want Willie to come back ???
    2)Why did the mom have another baby ifshe was very religious??
    3)What work did the mother do???

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  13. Hi
    Part 1
    the thick questions:

    1) Why was Willies's mom very cruel to him as well as the baby knowing that they are her own blood?

    2) If Willie's father died then how did her mother have another baby which she was trying to hide from Willie?

    3) Why did Willie's mother taught him wrong concepts about life and religion?

    Sorry for the delay because i found out late that I could do these blog posts.

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  14. Hello Ms Gelso and everyone
    I will answer questions Ludovica, Paloma and Stavros
    1) Why did Willie's mother escape from home after hitting Willie?
    I think she escaped from the house to get away from her neighbors, because there was a possibility that one of them might have heard the bang from hitting Willie with the hard objet that knock him out and they will alert the authorities and she will end up in jail. Also she wished that locking him up with the baby after hitting might lead to his death, so by the time she comes back she will be rid of him and obviously one of her major problems. Leaving the house gave her a hence to say that she wasn’t at home if anything goes wrong and it will all look like an accident.

    Answer to Paloma’s question
    2) Why did the mother want the baby to be secret?
    I think the mother wanted to keep the baby a secret because the baby’s father was unknown and that will raise some questions in the neighborhood. She was not happy about it and did not want to look irresponsible to the society. And also to Willie it was very hard to explain to him where the baby came from as his father was known to be dead and so rather than explain, she gave a very silly answer to him.
    Answer to Stavros
    3. Why did Will's mum teach him that almost everything is a sin?
    This is a very good question, to me the answer to this question is that she was trying to use religion to manipulate Willie and scare him, so she has full control over him. She wanted him to see everything she says as right and that anything coming from outside her is not correct. This question in a way connects to my question ; Why did the author use two different characters, showing one as heartless and brutal, and the other, kind and so very nice? Compare Tom and William’s mum? And here in Stavros question you can see heartlessness and brutality coming from Willies mother. All she wants is to satisfy her selfish ways at the expense of Willie and the baby, not caring how whatever she says to them affects their lives.
    Happy Thanksgiving

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  15. Part 2
    Answers to Ludovica's questions

    2) Why did Willie's mother want to kill him?
    I think that Willie's mom was a little psychic and sick minded. she didn't seem to know in what direction she was going in life.I think she didn't mean to think about killing Willie but thats what her mind made the thought about him.

    3) Why did Tom go to London after dreaming that Willie needed help?
    I think when tom dreamed about Willie in need of help, he went to London because he cared about him and he loved him more than his mom. The connection between Willie and Mr Tom made Mr Tom come all the way to London.

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  16. Part 3
    Answer to Steve Questions

    1)Was it finally a good idea for Tom to kidnap Will from the hospital?

    I assume that it was a good idea for Tom to kidnap Willie from the hospital because at least there is someone to love Willie and care about him,someone who is securing Willie's future forever and giving him a good family.

    Answer to Sofia's question

    Why did the mom want Willie to come back ???
    The government announced that the people had to start paying money for their kids in the countryside. Willie's mom didn't have enough money to pay for Willie to stay in the countryside with Mr Tom thats why she called him back to London, not because she loved him or cared about him.

    Ms Gelso tell me if i did something wrong or need to do
    Have a lovely THANKSGIVING break :)

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  17. part 3
    Answers too Dafne questions
    1) How did Will react to the suicide of the mother?
    In my opinion he felt sad about even though she was mean and evil. You have to also think that it was the person who gave him birth there so life.
    2) Why did the mother keep the baby secret?
    For me this question is misterious it maybe she wanted to to grow the girl and didn't want her to be taken away; or maybe she didn't want to send her to the countryside and actually demonstrated some love for her. Otherwise she was mad as I have alredy mentioned.

    Answers to Ludovicas questions
    1. Why did Willie's mother escape from home after hitting willie?
    Probably she finaly felt guilty or that she reflected on how she treated her kid. So she decided to let the poor creature live the rest of the life by him self and came back when she understood it was the wrong choice. "when she was younger her mother or father treated her the same way she treats Willie"
    2. Why did Willie's mother want to kill him?
    I don't think she wanted to kill him just like paloma said to my questions I restate it and think she is right,"when she was younger her mother or father treated her the same way she treats Willie"

    3. Why did Tom go to London after dreaming that Willie needed help?
    This is surely because Tom feels like a dad with Willie and has developed a really strong relationship and friendship hard to stop

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  18. Part. 2

    1) i think that she committed suicide because she was desperate.
    2)I think thet the mother is very cruel with Willie because mabe her parents where very strict with her!

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  19. Part. 3

    I think that Willie's mother did not want to let the world know about the baby because it may be dangerous for him! Mabe the father was searching for him and the mother kept him as a secret. Even though I do not think it is a very intelligent thing to do!!

    I think that the mom wanted Willie to come back because she was sick! And mabe she wanted to pass some time with him because she missd him or mabe because she felt finally bad for all the mean things she did to him! Even because she was a very religious wimen and it wasn't very religious to hit his sun with a belt!!

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  20. Hi!!!
    Part 2:
    Answer to Sofia's question
    Why did the mom want Willie to come back ?
    I think she wanted to make come back Willie so that she could go away and leave the baby to willie. She pretended to be ill so that Willie could go back home and stay with the new baby. As always the mother would care less about them and leave the children alone without any help...

    Why did the mom have another baby if she was very religious???
    I think that she had another baby because she wasn't trully religious. She only wanted that her sons would be religious so that she would know that they would always be helpful to her.... It may also be, however, that this baby wasn't hers but she got it from someone, but didn't obviously have the intention to grow him up properly has a normal and loving mother should do...

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  21. Hello Ms Gelso and classmates

    Part III

    Answer to Dafne, Fiza and Mihnea's third questions

    3) How did Tom finally have the courage to get Will away from the hospital, so kidnap him??
    I believe that Tom was thinking of doing something like that from his conversation with the doctor in the beginning, so we can say that he had already in his mind this "alternative plan". Then, when Tom finally decided that it was necessary to be done, he just did it.

    3) Why did Willie's mother taught him wrong concepts about life and religion?
    This is a question similar to mine, so I can try to give an answer. Will's mum taught him wrong concepts about life and religion, in order to fill his heart with fear and make him not to trust anybody but his mother. She may did it also, because she didn't want him to think that he's equal with her and sometimes disagree with her.

    3) How come everyone knew about the Beech Family?
    I think that before Tom's arrival, almost no one knew about the Beech family because they were close to themselves (as Willie at school that everybody was laughing at him). But after that, everybody ended knowing about them, because they found Will and his sister Trudy "locked" inside their home and specifically under the stairs.

    Have a nice Thanksgiving!!!

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  22. Part II
    I will answer to Palomas'questions...
    1) Why did Willies mother commit suicide?
    Willies mother commited suicide for two main reasons the major one was for all her sins and meastreatmenst and the second one because she was mentally retarded...
    3) Why did the mother want the baby to be secret?
    The mother wanted the baby to be a sectert because, she meastreated her and dinn't apresciate it and didn't want others to apreciate her. Antoher hipothesis is because as I already meansuned she has mentally problems.

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  23. Part 2
    Answering to one of Paloma's thick questions! :)
    Why did the mother want the baby to be secret?
    The mother wanted the baby to be secret because maybe she didn't want that other people sees it. Maybe she didn't want to let it see because she was very religious. Maybe she didn't want that other people thought that she didn't take religion seriously. She didn't want that others knew that she had children because she was religiously. She didn't want it to know because maybe then people would ask her questions of the dad if they didn't see it with her.

    Answering to one of stavros thick questions! :)
    Was it finally a good idea for Tom to kidnap Will from the hospital?
    I think it was a good idea because Tom didn't want that willie went to sleep whenever he shouted. I think it was also a good idea because if not Willie would go to a children's house. Tom didn't want to stay far from Willie because he was like a dad to him. Tom thought that the fresh air from his house would cure him. He also wanted to kidnap him because he loved him and he wouldn't like for him to be at the hospital all alone.

    Have a good thanksgiving!!

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  24. Part 3
    Answer to Sofia's question
    Why did the mom want Willie to come back ???
    The government started saying to people that hey needed to start paying to let the children stay in the countryside. Willie's mother didn't have enough money to let him stay so he wrote a letter to let him come back again. She didn't care about him and the only reason she wanted him to come back is that she didn't have enough money. She is very evil with him, she doesn't smile at him, doesn't care about him, doesn't play with him like normal parents she is only selfish. I don't think she is very sick, I only think she wrote it in the letter because it was an excuse to let him back in London.

    Answer to Paloma’s question
    Why did Will's mum teach him that almost everything is a sin?
    she was trying to use religion to frighten Willie and scare him, so she could control him. She wanted to be always right, everything she says is correct and everything that Willie and other people says, for her is wrong. If Willie angry's her she is going to hit him, throw him hard things and hurt him also with the belt that leaves bruises that hurt a lot. She also teaches him that almost everything is a sin because I think her mother uses to say it to her so she says it to him. She also thinks that smiling is a sin because nobody was nice with her so now she is cold-hearted with everybody, with her friends, with Willie and other persons because she never felt happy, she never smiled and i think she doesn't have friends.

    Have a good Thanksgiving and weekend!!! :) :) :) :)

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  25. Students,

    I have had a lot of trouble logging onto Edline and my school email. Because of this, I have not been able to send confirmations when I receive your blog posts. I am, however, logging onto the blog several times a day to make sure I am publishing all the comments. Let me know via the blog if you have noticed a problem since I am not able to access school email.

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  26. A couple of grammatical tips for everyone:

    -In English, it is very rare to indicate the possessive using "of." For example, we would not say "the mother or the father OF Willie." Instead use the apostrophe "s" ending: "Willie's mother."

    -"Tempia" in English is "Temple."

    -A parent does not GROW a child, a parent RAISES a child.

    -Some spelling corrections: Not "MABE," but "MAYBE." Not "MISTERIOUS," but "MYSTERIOUS," Not "ALREDY," but "ALREADY." Not "Willie ANGRY'S her," but "Wille ANGERS her."

    -"Why did Willie's mother TEACH..." NOT "Why did Willie's mother taught..." You needed a simple past verb, not a past participle.

    Fiza, you are right on track, keep going as you are.

    Lastly, who is Anonymous??

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  27. Several of you have asked why Willie's mother claims to be religious when, ironically (remember our discussion about how Willie's mother is an ironic character?), all of her actions towards her children seem to be opposite to religious teachings. I find this question very interesting and difficult to answer. Stavros and Uchenna, you both answered it thoughtfully and I agree with you. She seems to be using religion to control and instill fear in Willie.

    We want to be careful how we describe Willie's mother's mental state. Some of you have described her as "psychic" (I think meaning "psychotic"), some as "mentally ill," some as "crazy," some as "mentally retarded." We must be aware that each of these words means something different. I think we can agree that there is some off or not right with her--maybe "mentally ill" would be the correct term.

    When Tom finds Willie and Trudy in the closet, I become so emotional! I can't help but imagine if I were in Willi's position. Even though he is terrified, I can't help but describe him as brave and courageous. Even though he really couldn't do anything, he tried his best to save and care for his sister, all while he was in physical pain, too. It makes me also wonder if stories like Willie's are common.

    We all decided that Willie's character is dynamic (i.e. that he has changed since the beginning of the novel). Do you think he would have reacted to his sister in the same way at the beginning of the novel as he does at the end of the novel? What would he have done if he found out he had a sister then?

    Also, no one has really brought up Tom's son. There is a small section in the book when Tom is having a flashback and thinking about Rachel. We find out that she had a baby boy who died when he was just an infant. Do you think Tom makes a subconscious connection between his son who died and Willie?

    Great work, everyone! Keep it up! I hope you are enjoying the holiday!

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  28. Hello!
    This is my response to Fizas, Stavros and Ludovicas last three questions.

    3) Why did Willie's mother taught him wrong concepts about life and religion?

    Willie's mother probably thought that if she uses religion to prove Willie wrong, it gives her an excuse for beating him and abusing him. She just wants to beat him to take her anger out and also because maybe she has some mental problems.

    3. Why did Will's mum teach him that almost everything is a sin?

    Willie's mother did so because she didn't want him to do anything to "revolt against her". Hence, she built walls around him taking away all joy in life and said that it is a sin to have presents or to have friends.

    3. Why did Tom go to London after dreaming that Willie needed help?

    Mr. Tom had a vision that Willie needed help and that he was injured. So Mr. Tom went to london to save Willie.

    Have a nice day!

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  29. Alessandro I have a question for your answer to Dafne’s question, how did Will react to the suicide of his mother? Your answer was, in my opinion he felt sad about it, even though she was mean and evil. You have to also think that it was the person who gave birth to him and brought him to life. My question to your answer is, I would like to know what lead you to this answers and if there was a passage that helped you come to a conclusion?

    I agree with Paloma`s response to Fizas last questions. The question, paloma`s response and the reason I agree are below.

    3) Why did Willie's mother teach him wrong concepts about life and religion?

    Willie's mother probably thought that if she uses religion to prove Willie wrong, it gives her an excuse for beating him and abusing him. She just wants to beat him to take her anger out and also because maybe she has some mental problems. I agree with your answer because most of the time she just uses it to get her way and she hits him to let out her frustration.

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  30. Hi
    Part: 1
    1. Why did willies mom commit suicide?
    2. Why was willies mom extremely religious?
    3. What happened to Zach’s mom after Zach died?
    Part: 2
    Steve A. questions
    1. The people in the hospital where unwilling to take Willie home because they wanted to be sure that he was alright and healthy.
    2. It was probably not a good idea for tom to take Willie home because he might not have been healthy enough to leave the hospital.
    3. Maybe because she wanted him to be a very holy person or maybe become somebody that will be remembered in heaven or something.
    Steve c. questions
    1. Maybe she wanted to show Willie that she got a gift from god(that’s what she said in the book) and he didn’t because he was sinful sometimes.
    2. willies mother might have been careless about Willie because after all of the sins he had committed(according to his mom) he was no use keeping and she might thought by being near him might have been a sin because he was so sinful.
    3. Everybody probably knew about the breech family because their house was always noisy.
    Part: 3
    Aleasndro
    1. Maybe because she thought they where sinful.
    2. Im confused by this question, if you read this can you clarify? Thanks.
    3. Willies mom might have not been concerned because she might have thought that sending him straight to hell was a good thing because he did so many sins(according to his mom)
    Bye

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  31. Hi!!

    Part 3:
    respond to Alessandro's question:
    Why would Willie's mom torture her kids in such a violent and cruel way?
    I think that Willie's mother was very cruel and violent to her kids because, as Paloma said,maybe, when she was younger, also her parents were cruel to her... Another explenation can be that she wanted for her doughters a rigid life, so very religious...

    Answer to Stavros question:
    Was it finally a good idea for Tom to kidnap Will from the hospital?
    I think that it was a perfect idea for Tom to kidnap Willie from the hospital, because in this way Willie can be free and loved and cured from someone who really cares for him...

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  32. answer too uchena's question
    The key that sent me to such conclusion was that like everyone(i think at least) we get mad with are parents and feel hatred even though we still love them

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  33. Part 2:

    Regarding to Stavros's answer he gave to me:
    I pretty much agree with you, but however depends the way you see it (Bad/Good). What do I mean by that? Well easy, you can see the family's reputation in dust because of their mother, or you can see their reputation up to the top, with Wille as a "hero".

    Part 3:

    Again with Stavors, if none of these cases were the one you were searching for, then why do you think the whole city would be on Willie's side?

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